2025/03 - Thalamocortical Circuitry, Hierarchical

We humans perceived natural objects long before cups and staplers were invented.

It might seem beneficial to start Monty with manufactured objects - because they usually have clean lines and simple behaviors - before natural stuff, because they are complex. But doing it the other way, ie. starting with natural stuff, gives us potentially useful perspectives:

  1. Computing point normal vectors isn’t efficient for natural surfaces such as leaves, treebark, rocks,.. Therefore, Monty will likely start with an object’s rough outline.

  2. For natural objects, we will more likely perceive the whole before its components. Prehistoric brains perceived a forest before its trees, a tree before its individual leaves.

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Welcome to the forums @Trung_Doan ! I definitely agree! It’s something we try to be mindful of, and came up recently in a conversation about “logos on cups”, and how frequent 2D references frames (like a printed logo) are in nature vs. the natural world.

When it comes to static objects, I think we’re optimistic that similar principles would apply, and as you say, it would be rough outlines. For example, a rock would not have all of its contours learned (unless it was a very very important rock). Instead, the point-normal type feature extraction would ignore the details of crevices and cracks in the surface. Similarly for a tree, a cluster of leaves could inform a local surface-like feature, rather than each leaf being recognized. Together with sparse models, this would contribute to the more child-like understanding of a tree as a central trunk with a blob of green.

We think the above could work well with hierarchy/heterarchy, in line with what you say about “the whole before its components”. For example, you might have very rough models of coarse shapes like blobs, ovals, etc. These could serve as a Gestalt perception that you see immediately, and which can prime you to see something like a tree. Only with focused attention would you start spotting individual leaves.

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